senators kay bailey hutchison and john kyle have one called the achieve act. the congressional hispanic caucus is certainly making moves. when does everyone join forces and come up with a real type of deal forward? >> thomas, that's happening. the good thing is that there's a general framework, right? they want everybody in the system, and they want to mind the books. they want to make sure that employers and immigrants have to abide by the same set of rules that the rest of us do. it's interesting to see as the polling comes forward that americans say, look, if you are going to legalize 12 million people, make them citizens of the united states. they consider that the non-amnesty route because it says to them, you know, not only are you going to have all of the rights, but you are going to have all of the responsibilities, and we want to make sure that you're not just kind of halfway in, that you are all in on the system. so i think that's the good part. thomas, very, very unique to the conversation we're having now -- >> right. >> -- gone are the moments in